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- From: dhaire@gate.net (doug haire)
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
- Subject: Re: faster than 28.8
- Date: 15 Feb 1996 12:06:33 -0500
- Organization: CyberGate, Inc.
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- Anthony Hill (an171@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
- :
- : doug haire (dhaire@gate.net) writes:
- : > Anthony Hill (an171@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
- : > :
- : > : Hate to break it to you, but he may have come accross a perfectly
- : > : valid solution as to why he got the results he did. Now, that's not to
- : > : say that this in any way reflects the performance of the modem over real
- : > : world conditions, but it could explain why his tests results were the way
- : > : they were. It also brings up an intersting question of why the Courier
- : > : didn't correctly adjust it's Tx Power level like the Supra did.
- : >
- : > And I say it's bullshit. How about that? Where's the testing over live
- : > circuits? When's he going to do this?
- :
- : And you say HE is avoiding the topic? :> Anyway, I won't make any
- : comments about working over real lines, simply that he MAY have found a
- : reason why the Courier was slower then the Supra in his test results. If
- : you know of a better explanation I'm sure we'd all love to hear it..
-
- I'm not avoiding the subject. What I am doing is pointing out that he
- makes claims and then doesn't back them up with data. He says the USR is
- transmitting at a *much* higher level than the Supra, a difference that is
- noticeable across a cross-talk. Where's the data?
-
- : > If you believe what he says, go read the db levels with a USR Courier
- : > online and then with some other modem then report back here with the results.
- : > I don't believe him and I don't believe you.
- :
- : Actually I have done some experimenting with this. I found that
- : on modems on which I could manually adjust the Tx Power level that values
- : of -12 to -13dBm worked best, while both USR Courier and USR Sportster on
- : the same connection seemed to chose about -11dBm. I never much worried
-
- And the Supra transmits at what level?
-
- : about it though since the connect rates and throughput with the USRs was
- : always up to par, and besides, there were some other more important
- : differences that I've noted with some other modems (eg. USRs would use the
- : 3429 symbol rate, while other modems used the 3200 symbol rate for the
- : same connection, even though they DID support the 3429 symbol rate). Now,
- : why this happens I don't know, it could be that USRs can handle any sort
- : of echo better then some other modems and they can benefit from the
- : slightly higher tx power level, or it could just be a strange coincedance.
-
- Well, according to Eric's claims and data, the USR appeared to have
- problems with a non-loaded short connection (that 8 ft direct cable) so
- that would seem to contradict what you say here. I would think a higher
- xmit level would create more problems in echo, not less, however.
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